Underworld: first cheaters spotted
Hi everyone! Last night was sure tough. It was brought to our attention that some greedy cheaters hacked UW point packs. Which is kinda common thing happening to paid apps in AppStore, but still…
We would like to say two things regarding that.
First, we have found the solution to recognize unfair play and subtract leaked UW points. So, bad guys will be punished, just give it a time:)
Second, we can assure you all the honest UW players that the global game balance wasnt seriously affected, and the effect will be undone soon.
Keep rollin’ in Underworld!
Image credits: shinealight via Flickr.
April 24th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
I hate paid points. That makes it unfair to those who might not be able to afford them. Basically cheating itself.
I’d just be afraid this goes down the same pipe that iMob did due to that.
April 24th, 2009 at 3:53 pm
The benefits from the points are actually pretty minor overall. Police protection is nice (and i could see how it could get really addictive), but even if someone had 100% protections, it would still take them a few weeks of not stop play to get into the leader board.
I don’t mind being able to give back in some way buying a few points. I’ll just play twice as hard to combat those who use the police protection on a regular basis. I’ve used it twice now, and was very happy to be able to respec as well.
My only concern is what they are going to do as far as longevity goes, or end game people (top end). I really love the running a drug lab and becoming a more integral part of the game that way. That would be pretty dang sweet if implemented right. They could also add another high end product or two, but that would require some more level upgrades across the board probably (or in a few area’s). They still have a ways to go yet implementing the “sell area” upgrade.
I think it would be cool to have the choice to become a lab owner, and have to find sugar, flower, ect, and then each product could have a unique item to be able to produce a batch. Would make a second high level game. Just need to balance the price of the ingrediance, so that the selling via a lab is profitable enough. Perhaps being able to put the cpu labs out of business by purchasing them? Guess that would open people to monopolizing the system, but still, there are some great places they can take this, and I hope they do.
April 24th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
Personally I want to be a loan shark… loan out money I’ve made legit to other players for a high rate of return.. if they don’t have enough to pay, the rates increase, I’m able to get their stash of drugs, ect. You would have to be careful, because if you have an outstanding loan, and that player just stops playing, you are out the money, so it has an element of risk, but I think real player loan sharks would be awesome
April 24th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
I second xxzone on the points of refining the “trade area skill”. I maxed that skill, and like the idea of eventually becoming a lab owner.
A few ways of implementing this without monopolizing the game are:
*restrict the number of maximum labs you can own
*restriction on the variety of commodities one can produce
Above suggestions will give “end-game” players a new goal and the financial flow will be more realistic. Human lab owners will have to compete eachother with prices.
Another thing i liked about xxzone’s post is the market for ingrediënts. You could go several ways with this:
*create jobclasses later on, be it a farmer with land to harvest the ingrediënts or something else
*create computer controlled farms to provide the ingrediënts. You could also make the farms human controllable later on in the end-end-game ;).
All this should only become available after a certain amount of lvls so the game doesn’t become to complex and overwhelming to the new/lowlevel players and retain a challenge to the higher level players.
Anyone?
April 24th, 2009 at 5:52 pm
Yeah they have to do something. If this really takes off like they want to, I’m going to be stuck trying to undercut people over and over again, and vice versa. Hopefully the missions help with this, but I’m just not excited to have a ton of people in my area fighting to sell to junkies. The game is already pretty slow going as is.
I can’t imagine how slow it is for people who aren’t willing to drive around sometimes. You need to have something else to do while you are waiting for the server updates.
April 24th, 2009 at 5:58 pm
you should look into the way CRACKULOUS works its basically a low level decompiler and debugger. i dont know how this works on the iphone but on a pc decompiler and debugger you have to search the jump points for the code jump witch is the password file and by doing this you can disable the need to buy you can also tag the 2 jump points enter any user name ane find the file containing the password if i was you and other developers i would go download crackulous and a pc cracker called ollydbg from here http://www.ollydbg.de/ the only way i think you can stop this is by putting a heavy code on top of your files but i dont think the iphone can do this but if you can have the app see if its been cracked mabby you can set it up so it tells your server and deletes the account that matches the persons iphone code that is used for ll online game apps on the phone
April 24th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
Well, the points can only do so much. I got some points, but they didn’t really help. just saved me maybe $2k-$3k in cops, and thats it.
kinda useless now
April 24th, 2009 at 6:19 pm
when you are level 14-15, $2k-$3k is nothing really
April 24th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
yeah, saving those free cop passes till you are dealing waffles or coke and you lose 14k with one botched deal, that’s when it makes it somewhat worth it… but even then, as long as the sale goes through the next time you try, you are still making a profit when you sell it.
April 24th, 2009 at 7:22 pm
Is the reskinnig (back to the drug theme) is cheating?
April 24th, 2009 at 7:31 pm
No reskinning isn’t cheating.
People cracked the points, so they could have them all for free.
April 24th, 2009 at 7:58 pm
ugh. i moved while the servers were down and dont really leave the house much (baby and wife now) so its harder for me to buy and sell stuff from one location.
ive noticed a few assholes who have just shot through the roof and are buying everything and I have no chance to. ill admit, i got some free points, take them away, please, as i was much better at this game when no one was cheating. i didn’t even make any substantial extra money because of it either
April 24th, 2009 at 7:59 pm
i always bought waffles in intervals of 1-3 anyways, never bought all at once, thats dumb
April 24th, 2009 at 8:06 pm
@Greqo If A-Steroids did not charge for points, what financial motive would they have to continue to develop and support the game?
April 24th, 2009 at 8:25 pm
im lvl 14 and already think the selling has gotten a lot slower than usual. I wonder how the mission is going to work. I sure hope it isn’t going to be anything like: buy X amount of X commodity and deliver it to spot X. If that’s the way all missions are going to be, it will kill the Earth because of C02 ^^
April 24th, 2009 at 8:49 pm
i sure worried bout er “solution to recognize unfair play”. what if i play too gewd for yu and yu say then i cheat and get away my pointz?!
April 24th, 2009 at 9:26 pm
@alexzam
translator please?
April 24th, 2009 at 9:33 pm
@ xxzone
How did you get the privelage of being a lab owner?
April 24th, 2009 at 9:35 pm
AlexZam, we recognize the cheating not from your progress in the game, but from the hacked game version launched by a player.
April 24th, 2009 at 9:46 pm
What if people launch a cracked points pack and then delete and just use the free one. Or does the server have a log of what versions they have used?
April 24th, 2009 at 10:15 pm
the people with the beta points are accounted for.
im not well informed but since this problem affects all the other points based apps, i think apple hasn’t implemented a way for developers to check if the purchase was made,,
we need an itunes account to download the game to the iphone and we have another account made in underworld server, if they could access that info they could cross check it to know if we had indeed purchased those points,,
but yeah if that was possible every online game would be doing it (i think..)
on a more positive note im addicted again, =) took a little while but im playing every 5 minutes again.. it’s sick..
is the cream of the crop working right? i find it hard to believe that europe has most of the high scores
April 24th, 2009 at 10:28 pm
So, how will these cheaters be punished? I’m curious…
April 24th, 2009 at 11:16 pm
Oh and also, is it just me or are there very VERY few junkies around all of a sudden? I feel like I may as well not play this for a week until someone buys something, it’s taking so long to sell stuff all of a sudden…
April 24th, 2009 at 11:28 pm
off with their heads!
April 24th, 2009 at 11:42 pm
The biggest problem the past 24 hours is the selling/buying has slown to a crawl. I keep going to new area’s, and after the inital 7-14 items I buy, then there is only 1 produced from then on. The game isn’t very playable like that.
I wrote it off to bad luck at first, but it keeps happening in each new area I go to, and there is no way to make money in a timely manner like this. 1 item ever 15 minutes doesn’t cut it.
April 25th, 2009 at 3:53 am
hey, I was beta testing but had to cash in my HiPhones warranty. can I get my points? my user name was meatwad. I was pretty far in the game making cream of the crop next to bay-d boy often
April 25th, 2009 at 5:44 am
I got busted today for $28k in one transaction!!!
I was driving on the hwy at the time, and wanted to take the chance rather than lose the opportunity of buying everything in stock at lab pricing!
In hindsight, it was a bad move! LOL
April 25th, 2009 at 5:51 am
haha, shoulda got off and made the transactions then!
i mean you live by sacremento, its gotta be easy, i live in the middle of the goddamn desert now (as apposed to la county during beta)
April 25th, 2009 at 8:46 am
I know this is slightly off topic, but anyone know the file I have to swap from DL to SW to make the text for candy back to drugs?? I already swapped the png files, but under my coke it still says waffles…
April 25th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
Go download the skin in Cydia, and just enable it in winterboard.
April 25th, 2009 at 5:44 pm
LOL, too easy… Though I figured out how to edit the strings… Thanx though!
April 25th, 2009 at 7:13 pm
UW points don’t help you that much anyway. I saw them on installous but left them alone. Didn’t want to risk losing my first place in the state rank.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:00 pm
Localizable.strings is the name of the file that changes the names. You need to convert the file to xml if using xp, or just use this tool http://www.ipodrobot.com/ (thanks albe). Then change the names you want and replace the file.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:59 pm
7x busted in a row with waffles 39k each time, i had to take loan on lv13 xD Bad luck ^^
April 25th, 2009 at 11:31 pm
^^ You shouldnt be buying that much at at time. 2-3 max.
April 26th, 2009 at 1:55 am
This is a great game very addicting!! The only thing I won’t to know is how do u get a lab to produce candy.
P.s. My name is G$uM$mY on underworld please txt me back
April 26th, 2009 at 2:30 am
Hey I was just wondering how do u make so much money because I’m having trouble making 5k
April 26th, 2009 at 3:57 am
I agree with chefanim, 2-3 at a time on the top tiered items. If you get busted, wait a few, try again.
I would like to know some of the inner workings on when the lab/junkies change over, how the junkies decide who to buy from…. Things like that.
April 26th, 2009 at 4:26 am
Junkies buy from lowest player on the physical map. If you are the only one in your grid and they aren’t buying, you need to lower you price. Junkies/labs buy/sell every 15-20 min. The entire map usually refreshes every 6-7 hours. So if junkies didn’t buy within 20 min drop the price every 20 min till they do.
April 26th, 2009 at 4:44 am
Ok thx
April 26th, 2009 at 4:46 am
How much money do u have
April 26th, 2009 at 7:08 am
At the moment dealers and junkies in the whole map change much more often… Every hour or so. Thats too fast to do proper business ;-(
April 26th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
Hot Lady- I agree. The map will change virtually every time I close it and immediately reopen it. A couple of other bugs happen as well. Yesterday, for instance, there wasn’t a single lab, even in the margins, anywhere on the physical map. This condition lasted from 8:30 PM until 7:00 AM this morning EST. These conditions make it very difficult to buy or sell anything. When the map appears to be working, the refresh rate of junkies and labs seems to be changing every 15 to 20 minutes. Andrey, any thoughts?
April 26th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
Hate that there’s no player interaction at all in the game. ATM its pure get online every hour so you get the cheap stuff. I also don’t need to leave my home due to many sugar labs popping on every hour.
April 26th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
@ ithoughts.de yes I agree… I work from home and so rarely leave my town, and I have made it to level 16 just by staying in one place… Not that I’m complaining of course! But it just highlights the point that you don’t really need to move around in order to progress in the game even though moving around is supposed to be one of the main features of UWSD.
Nevertheless, I absolutely love this game, I play it 1000% more than anything else on the iPhone… Thankyou Andrey and the team!!
April 26th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
Okay… I’ll admit that I downloaded 100 points from Installous, but I only used them to get the re-upgrade skills thing- nothig more, nothig less. IMO police protection isn’t worth it, but I don’t upgrade the things I can sell, so what do I know.
Also, I heard a rumor that jailbreaking is/was illegal, so shouldn’t the beta testers get punished as well?
April 26th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
how do u become a lab owner pleas tell me!!!!!!!!!!!
April 26th, 2009 at 9:19 pm
I doubt that jailbreaking is illegal…..
April 26th, 2009 at 10:07 pm
Jailbreaking isn’t illegal, only breaks the tc’s of your contract, which isn’t breaking a law.
April 27th, 2009 at 12:08 am
@Travis you CAN’T be a lab owner!!!111 And you can’t be a junkie either, so there.
@Chuu~ Jailbreaking isn’t illegal, and you cheated. Cheater. Beta testers got 15 points from the dev, not close to the 100 that you stole.
April 27th, 2009 at 12:47 am
I agree. If you are high enough to have to respec, you have played enough to be able to buy 100 points for 5$ to tell the devs thanks for the game. You stole the points to a server side game, you hopefully have to suffer the consequences.
I respeced, and I paid for the points to do so.
April 27th, 2009 at 1:19 am
Before you all start jumping on me, I understand what you are saying, especially xxzone, but at least I have the courage to admit that I DID infacct illegaly download the points.
As for suffering the consequences- I’ll take what I must, I just feel that you should be able to have the abillty to get refunds for skills that you previously updated for free. Bet I’ll get a bunch of junk from other people about that…
April 27th, 2009 at 1:56 am
who cares about who cheated or not!!! That’s what happens in an “Underworld.” Shady things happen and that’s what makes the world go round!! Fix it, then prepare for someone to come up with another hack…
You can’t honestly tell me that any individual actually felt the affects from those who cheated! Aside from maybe gaining rank, which shouldn’t matter since all the top ranked people are the beta testers!!
April 27th, 2009 at 2:00 am
Chuu:
Don’t even trip on them!! It wasn’t illegal, and I bet 99% of the beta community did it too. Don’t apologize for capitolizing on a something that obviously they expected would happen but didn’t prepare for… If anyone is to blame, blame the ones who created the crack, or the ones who failed to prevent it!
April 27th, 2009 at 4:10 am
K-Dizzle makes a valid point… “If you crack it they will download”…
April 27th, 2009 at 4:57 am
That’s true, but you gotta understand they can track that stuff when it’s a server side game.
April 27th, 2009 at 5:54 am
It’s a game… No more and no less… Obviously people will pay some sort of consequence, be it in the game or suffer bad karma outside of the game, but this sort of things has happened to just about every other game out there. When in Rome…….
April 27th, 2009 at 9:29 am
I think you’re missing the point.
First a new player has little use for the 100credits.. Only those that have been playing for more than a
month would be tempted by it. It’s tempting to correct any mistakes you made (I for example spent too much on the trade area, and that’s the most useless skill in the game). But I held off both out of respect and because I rather be on the other side. Underworld can pretty much keep hackers off the servers. (that is until I get a 0day JBoss exploit lol).
And if you cheated (and in this case also stole) you should get punished and probably will. Your acc will be reset as for coming clean in hopes of being saved it won’t do much olof a diference. You knew the risks
April 27th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
On a somewhat similar note, I noticed that one of the Mob games has downloadable points, which have also migrated to Installous. Anyone know if that has been resolved?
Also, won’t this be fixed in the 3.0 firmware? I heard that Apple will let people download stuff in-game, as opposed to a seperate app.
If it makes anyone feel better, I won’t be spending the extra 40 points I have.
April 27th, 2009 at 3:29 pm
Cheating in an MMO is worth a ban. End of story. We’re not even discussing how piracy is wrong etc, cheating should get you banned.
The way you do it does not matter.
April 27th, 2009 at 4:18 pm
Or at least a complete reset.. The mob games are just dumb. You can alter pretty much anything from weapon damage to money or experience owned on the client and it works..
April 27th, 2009 at 5:58 pm
Mostly for andrey:
Hey I’ve found smthing wrong, i’m lv14 in my nation it’s the best atm, but on toplist lv13 ppl are over me, how can this happen? It’s maybe coz of the uptime of server?
Thanq for support ^.^
April 27th, 2009 at 6:56 pm
Daedalus, cream of the crop is updated on daily basis. So you’ll see yourself on the new position after the next update.
April 27th, 2009 at 7:06 pm
Not to change topics, but I downloaded the SD to DL theme but it doesn’t change the names of the commodities on the map screen. What should be the ‘Drug Lab’ still says ‘Joy Lab’ and it still shows the candy name for what they are producing. Same with the ‘Junkies’
I downloaded the program that was brought up earlier in this thread but I’m not sure which part of the strings need to be changed.
It’s not a huge deal but my minor case OCD is kickin’ in and it’s bothering me!
April 27th, 2009 at 7:34 pm
@andrey
Thanq ^.^ but i’ll be 15 with this speed till 2morrow xD
@Bad D-Boy
It’s for me too, if there is any way to change the texts back to the old ones, i’ll be happy if anybody tell us how to do that, or just a link .. ^^
Regards
Daedalus
April 27th, 2009 at 8:01 pm
Quick question how much money should I be making each day and how many lvls I’m lvl 5 if you can help me here or in game that soul be great my username is Jordan
April 27th, 2009 at 9:01 pm
@chuu
You are probably absolutely right. They wouldn’t be seperatlry download apps like they are now so no way (well, probably jet more difficult as you can never stop hackers) To get free pts. I can’t wait for 3.0. I know I cheated and I’ll accept consequences. If that involves a reset- awesome cause I’d like to go up the ranks again anyways, I don’t really give two shits about cream of the crop. MY e-balls are large enough.
April 27th, 2009 at 9:05 pm
@Jordan. Only buy from joy labs, and upgrade your traceable items as fast as possible. If you have UW POINTS Dnt worry about cops, you can buy protection and buy large quantities. If you don’t have UW points alwy buy large things like waffles (usually about 4k profit each waffle for me) buy 1-3 at a time only. Undercut anyone in your area by $1. And if you can travel, do it because you will have more buyinng and selling opportunities.
April 27th, 2009 at 10:08 pm
Is it possible to sell to the addicts. If so how, if not do u see this as a possible feature in the future.
April 27th, 2009 at 11:15 pm
Hacking is just another form of game playing for many people. Trying to figure out a way around following the rules or back-dooring a program is a challenge in and of itself. I can’t blame a person for doing it. It’s the motivation for doing it that pisses me off. The person who did it probably has no interest in actually playing the game anyway. People such as that get their rocks off from destroying things that other people spent lots of time and energy creating. It is always easier to tear something down than to be creative and build something up from scratch. I suppose I can’t be to critical about any of this however. We all have jailbroken phones and the net result is exactly the same thing that Apple grouses about. As for in game consequences, the points are a convenience and nothing more. You still have to play the game to excel and no one will catch any of us serious beta players because we have to much of a head start. Also, we have all of the credibility on our side because we did it with no leg up in the first place. XXZone put it best. You are a cheater plain and simple but so aren’t we all in a way. We should all sit in the lotus position on the floor, say ohm…a few thousand times and pray for our karma not to bring us back as a slugs in the next life. That would really suck. If you want to make amends, start over from scratch and move on. You’ve said mia culpa enough times. A community is a community after all. Sometimes you don’t realize it until you’re living in it for a while. We have all made a few missteps. What separates people we’d like to be our neighbors and those we wouldn’t is the willingness to admit our mistakes, take the criticism due us and then settle in and move ahead.
April 28th, 2009 at 1:21 am
The way I see it, there are (at least) 3 people responsible for this.
-Me for downloading it
-The person who cracked it
-The developers for not doing anything about this or forseeing this.
April 28th, 2009 at 1:39 am
Don’t forget the people that make it available… Or at least that’s true according to the courts that sentenced the Pirate Bay guys!
April 28th, 2009 at 3:22 am
Andrey how are the cheaters being punished? Maybe if it’s not that bad I’ll cheat too….
April 28th, 2009 at 3:27 am
Yeah… I’m willing to start over, but I gotta check with the developers to make sure I’m doing more good than bad.
April 28th, 2009 at 3:33 am
Just kidding I wont cheat. But I am curious what is going to happen.
On another note I am out over $110,000 today in cop busts. OUCH!!
April 28th, 2009 at 4:01 am
You lost $110,00? I rarely come close to $10,000 (in $ owned, not lost). So , as bad as it is, downloading 100 points has not had a big impact (if any) on my UW experience.
April 28th, 2009 at 4:18 am
well thats just how much in busts, I still made money today in the end. Prob around $800,000 or so days not over yet though…
April 28th, 2009 at 5:39 am
Yeah I lost 49K in busts today. Could be worse though.
April 28th, 2009 at 6:31 am
My goal is to make $500k-1m each day.
It’s been a bit slow lately though. Perhaps things are becoming more realistic.
April 28th, 2009 at 6:44 am
I never keep track of my losses but I make $1million a day pretty easily… Mostly due to the amount I travel for work… LOL which is literally only two tiles on my map but it’s been healthy for sales!!
On a side note, anyone having problems viewing the maps, my game crashes everytime I try.
Also, I saw some dudes profile in the game and it had a smiley on his comment. Is that a hack or is smileys active in your profile comment?
April 28th, 2009 at 6:46 am
In fact, lately I’ve been making 1-2.5million a day… I doubt those numbers will last though…
April 28th, 2009 at 8:18 am
k-dizzle the smileys are the hidden keybard that came out in the last version but it’s only avaliable for Japanese users. But there’s a fix in cydia.
I’m lvl16 1000k short of lvl17 for two days now. How are you people making so much?
I noticed that I dropped from 31 to 39 in Europe and now I’m thinking you all know something I don’t =)
I’m selling 80doses of coke at 5.999 each but I can hardly fill the pockets more than once and it takes hours. For example I have 80 in my pocket for 4 hours now.. Is the price too high?
April 28th, 2009 at 10:01 am
2.5M in a day? How’d you do that? I play very actively throughout the day and I travel 65 miles each way to work. I must go through at least 15 tiles each way. On my best day I’ve done maybe 1M. Whats the secret? ;D
April 28th, 2009 at 10:58 am
Paulie45
I live on the corner of the map. I’ve noticed that some maps junkies and labs produce more sweets. I try to spend as much time as possible ion that market. I make about 1.5m/day and I’m a lvl 17 now
April 28th, 2009 at 11:14 am
K-Dizzle
What’s your global ranking (cream of the crop on earth). If your making 1-2.5m/day, you must be high ranking. On my best day, driving all over the place, I’ve only made 2m
April 28th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
I guess people with an iPhone have an advantage over iPod touch users, right? I have the latter.
April 28th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
depends,, i spent some time thinking about it but since i travel a lot it wouldn’t make much diference, what i thought about was to proxy my connection and then switching proxys would be like moving around, one other thing that made this pointless for me to try out is that iphone will always try to use location services (didn’t try removing the simcard..) but you could always try that,,
April 28th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
I didn’t say I’ve always made that much, only in the past few days… I do $1mill a day easy though. I think it’s more to do with being active…change ur price by a $1, completly buy out the joy labs (even if it’s not something u want/need, check the maps!!! I believe just logging on is not good enough… I even randomly send noobs advice…
As for my ranking, well, my next upgrade is $6mil so that should take me about 3-6 days to upgrade… I didn’t say I was the best, only gave you my recent cash flow stats…
April 28th, 2009 at 5:10 pm
sak3r,
I think without the location services (which i think uses ur phones cellular signal) it will just use ur last location that u were at. Dunno about people that use the itouch.
April 28th, 2009 at 6:49 pm
travelling between 2 tiles is essential to make around 1 Million a day. I am nr 6 in earth and going to improve further …. And this without cheating !
April 28th, 2009 at 7:06 pm
Thanks for all the feedback. I am lvl 17 ranked 23 in North America and 53 worldwide. Again, I travel over approximately 15 tiles daily. I am having a 1m dollar day today but today has been very good to me. I was just wondering if there was some small piece of strategy I was missing or if was just luck of the draw on the computer generated labs/junkies for a bit. Map is still very buggy. Frequently, all labs, junkies and other players will only appear in the margins of the map and not in the active area. I will refresh the map by closing and reopening. Sometimes this works and other times it doesn’t. By and large though, the game play has smoothed out tremendously over the original UW:DL. Halfway to lvl 18 and cruisin’. I don’t even mind the candy theme…just don’t forget to brush when your finished…
April 28th, 2009 at 7:10 pm
K-Dizzle Thanks again!… and don’t forget the Fo-Shizzle!
April 28th, 2009 at 7:22 pm
They should just erase the point. All the people who did get the points, including me, all have jailbroken iPods/ iPhones. I think this is the developers fault because they had to no that the beta testers, downloaders, “cheaters” were goin to do this. Also the beta testers, downloaders, ” cheaters, gave this game the boost to be in the app store. All in all the developers released a game to the jailbroken community( who hack apps for free) and then made points cost money. Commen since would tell u this was coming.
April 28th, 2009 at 7:28 pm
LOL, I’m Mr. T on the game for the moment, but I’m gonna change back to K-Dizzle today… Only did it as a joke to a coworker.
April 28th, 2009 at 8:29 pm
Yeah I can do 750K a day if I try, more is easy if the servers work with your, but I’ve been having a hell of a time lately. I travel a lot, so I get a lot of options, but the stupid tiles keep jacking up and only buying/selling 1 item per refresh. This makes it nearly impossible to unload/refresh my inventory more than once a day if I’m lucky.
If the servers worked as well as they did in the “beta”, I coudl easily make 1-2 mil a day if not more.
April 28th, 2009 at 8:46 pm
I should have never opened my mouth cuz today I barely sold anything.. This is the worst day I’ve had in a long time… Hopefully it picks up
April 28th, 2009 at 8:54 pm
Yeah. I just moved to live with my pregnant wife and her disabled mom in the middle of the desert and I don’t ever travel so my pgrogress definately has slowed down
April 28th, 2009 at 9:26 pm
Same here K-Dizzle. Started the day with full waffles & dots. 120 slots. I’ve made 100K today due to the servers only buying 1 item at a time, and then towards the end of the day it went from 20 minute updates to over 30.
At level 17 you can’t make money that way.
April 28th, 2009 at 10:26 pm
If you think this is slow wait until we’re all trying to raise 24 or 50M to make top ranks one waffle at a time. Shouldn’t a lear jet hold more that 200 of something?
April 28th, 2009 at 11:40 pm
This server problem is going to turn off new customers, let alone existing players.
April 28th, 2009 at 11:47 pm
finally made a $150k sale…. After waiting all day!!
April 28th, 2009 at 11:55 pm
You are lucky.
April 29th, 2009 at 2:33 am
LOL talk about luck, after that $150k, I am almost at my $1mil marker for today… All in less than 4 or 5 hours…
April 29th, 2009 at 2:41 am
andrey:
1. You think its possible for you to create a “comment” section on your website for people to chat as we are now, just without having to be on a specific topic…. I rather enjoy this!! I don’t have Internet access other than through my iPhone so I can’t register on that message board due to my phone not being able to see the captcha image. Also, I just like the simplicity of this format; type message and submit!!
2. I notice a lot of junkies and lab owners have Hawaiian names. You have ties with Hawaii or you just like the culture?? I ask cuz I am Hawaiian and from Hawaii, just moved to San Jose 6 months ago…
Just curious!!
April 29th, 2009 at 4:05 am
Thanks for the insight K-Dizzle
April 29th, 2009 at 5:05 am
A chatbox would be nice… I mainly acces this site from my iPod, but I can also use my computer if I wanted too. That means all of my comments were typed on my iPod. :O!
April 29th, 2009 at 5:32 am
You mean itouch? Cuz I’ve not seen an iPod that goes online yet…
April 29th, 2009 at 5:56 am
Wtf?!?!? I can’t find any junkies or labs.. :-s DL has been acting pretty weird these past couple of days.. :-s
April 29th, 2009 at 6:12 am
I’m seeing fine activity, I just don travel anymore so it’s harder for me. It may be slowed down because so many people are reaching top ranks so fast with nowhere else to go after they finish that, maybe it’s the amnt of ppl playing now, who knows
April 29th, 2009 at 6:17 am
K-Dizzle, there is a chat already. You can use it through web, emails and jabber. Not sure there is a jabber client on the iPhone though.
What comes to the names of junkies & labs: nothing personal here We used a third-party name database. There are a lot of names from other cultures too.
April 29th, 2009 at 8:58 am
Andrey.. Something wrong with the server? I havent seen any junkies or labs all day, even though i’ve travelled to different areas :-s
April 29th, 2009 at 10:30 am
Schimmel, servers seem to be 100% healthy. Could you tell what is your current location? I mean, what is the name of it in the market screen.
April 29th, 2009 at 11:42 am
Sønder køge, region sjælland…
April 29th, 2009 at 3:04 pm
Andrey.. Any news? I still can’t see any.. Pretty annoying
April 29th, 2009 at 3:38 pm
The servers have been a lot more random lately, and it makes playing the game very frustrating. The servers were awesome and reliable before it was submitted to the app store, now it seems as if they are constantly tweaking it trying to find a happy medium.
Yesterday was terrible. Most the area’s I went to would allow me to buy the initial 8 products someone had. After that it would go down to 1 product every server update. That included buying and selling. It corrected itself last night, but that was a whole day of wasted play.
Yesterday afternoon the server updates also started getting further and further apart. Before it was 15-20 minutes, and now it’s 25-30 minutes. May not seem like much, but it’s going from 3-4 product sells a hour, to only 2. That effects gameplay quite a bit.
It comes across as they are trying to slow down the gameplay, because they don’t want people to get to the top level so quickly. K-Dizzle is right. With this stuff going on, it’s going to be complete hell to level 12, 24, 50 million.
The servers were actually fine the first week back, but since then it seems like they are monkeying this stuff, and it’s just too bad. There is no logical reason to buy UW points with the server in this state. Why spend points for 8-24 hours of police protection, when I can only buy 1 product at a time, or some other nonsense mentioned above pops up.
The problem is probably bigger because I’m so freaking addicted to the game. I guess it saves me money though, cause I would have purchased more points by now if things were running smoothly. Maybe it’s an issue with area’s that have traffic in them regularly. Maybe I need to go the opposite direction for a while and see if those area’s work better.
I hope it stabilizes. If it’s across the board then I guess it’s fair all across, but if it’s sporadic all over, then it begins to effect the cream of the crop.
You really should come in the chat K-Dizzle. It would be nice to not be the only one freaking out in there every day
April 29th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
I was selling 1mil a day and for the past 4 days cant make more than 10,000. What’s going on with the game?
April 29th, 2009 at 4:18 pm
April 29th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
These problems are beginning to really suck… I was a beta tester for this, five of my friends have iPhones but didn’t want to jailbreak to be able to play DL… So when SD finally arrived in the appstore I told them about it immediately… They have all stopped playing it now because “nothing happens”.
Such a shame… Not just because it would have been great to play against my friends, but also because UW is clearly losing potential players/customers.
Anyway, I’m still holding out… But very very slowly beginning to lose faith….
I love this game so much! Please help us out!!
April 29th, 2009 at 4:49 pm
@Andrey:
mate the game is abit messed up my area on the market screen is cliftonville, county tyrone. this is west belfast, lab owners are only producing in 7’s and my brother has the game aswell he is from east belfast (ormeau, county tyrone)he is #1 in the world on cream of crop F***er, here lab owners produce in 22’s and he makes about 1 mill a day where im lucky to make 20,000. im not selling and today i was buying coke in 1’s and i counted being busted 22 times by cops just buying 7 grams.I am losing more than im making please put more lab owners and junkies in my area of belfast.
April 29th, 2009 at 4:53 pm
I was a beta tester to and the game was played smooth, now the game sucks
April 29th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
Yup very slow sometimes at the mo struggling to make 100k today yet kitten same local aera made 700k+ just over night. but saying that it was the compleat opposite the other day . Random markets or screwy severs, it seems to level out so far ……..
iam still having a bad day though LOL
April 29th, 2009 at 5:44 pm
Yeah that’s a huge point MO. I told a few friends about it also. All but one have quit because it doesn’t play as I told them. When you get 2 updates an hour, it’s just not very fun!
April 29th, 2009 at 6:04 pm
You know what, the game started to suck when ppl started to complain about the free points. The way the game is now its stupid to buy points because if you don’t sell any drugs you wont need to buy any either. Why the hell should anyone buy points!!! If it was up to me everybody should get free points.
This game has become pointless! Its a shame.
April 29th, 2009 at 7:04 pm
I’m the No1 in the world I have never used any points and I make around 1mil aday but this wile back Stevie is right cops are hitting alot harder if lost 150k today and still counting + sells are very slow and stop. On beta things where running alot better
April 29th, 2009 at 7:41 pm
I think it rotates on where it hits. I have been having a better day today then ever before. but last weekend i almost sold nothing and almost nothing for sale. I have made 1.2M so far today lost about 57k in busts.
Got 4 more hours at work before I head home. I might break 2m by then at this rate.
About time.
April 29th, 2009 at 8:06 pm
I’ve had a decent start 2day but I haven’t been able to view my map in 3 days!! Kinda hard to determine what to stock up on if I can’t see which junkies are around!!
andrey:
I meant a chat like something what we are doing now… I’ll go look for that chat though…
April 29th, 2009 at 8:21 pm
Damn guys.. I haven’t been able to find any labs or junkies all day.. And the most i’ve tried to make in one day is around 200k.. And i even got coke to sell.. Well.. I would have if i could find a lab
April 29th, 2009 at 8:23 pm
I started the day good, but then the servers went to @#%@# and started buying/selling only 1-2 items after the initial update. Happens every day now.
I feel sorry for them, cause the people who have invested time are trying to stick it out till it gets fixed. I don’t see how any new people are going to be interested in the game when it’s in this state.
April 29th, 2009 at 9:21 pm
Serverside problems continue to abound. I have another question that I’d love an answer to. When I’m playing the game I obviously see other players who are on the various screens selling their stuff. At any given time there will be a couple of people who are relatively local to me-say within 75-100 miles. There will also be a several players whose profiles don’t list their locale. I asked one of them, in game, where they were located and they replied that they were in Puerto Rico. As the crow flies,that’s about 1500 miles from where I live in New England. While it’s nice to see other people in game, I thought that the idea was to compete with other people for supply in my area? While there may be too few people playing to fill that bill, seeing people 1500 miles away seems to defeat the purpose. Hell, I’ve even had in-game conversations with K-Dizzle who was on my play screen even though he’s West Coast. Anyone care to comment. You’ve probably got time to write with the refresh rate down to two an hour. Also, I’ve had no labs in my area for over two hours…
April 29th, 2009 at 9:32 pm
Just sold my first deal in nearly 18 hours…. Sheesh!
@paulie - I’m in the uk yet people from Norway show on my map… And only about 6 people from the uk…
So you’re not alone!
April 29th, 2009 at 9:42 pm
lol @ Paulie45. Yeah I don’t get why they did that to the server refresh rate. Has murdered the gameplay. My understanding is you only compete price wise with people in your same tile you are in. If he’s in mexico he shouldn’t show up in your specific tile.
Apparently that’s all trade area does is let you see real players from further away.
April 29th, 2009 at 9:42 pm
oh and the game was a lot funner when it updated every 15 minutes instead of 25-30
April 29th, 2009 at 9:47 pm
XXZone-You were on my screen for a while if you remember. My local players haven’t been on my screen in a couple of days either.
April 29th, 2009 at 9:55 pm
Does anyone behind the scenes have any answers to any of these questions people are asking?????
April 29th, 2009 at 10:24 pm
ye ha! I’ve got a gummie lab….
April 29th, 2009 at 10:27 pm
oops…I spoke to soon the gummie lab just disappeared. But not before I bought 7 o the little buggers! I’ll probably make at least a hundred bucks! LVL 18 here I come!!!
April 30th, 2009 at 12:47 am
The sad part is their only response is “servers seem to be 100% healthy”, so we are probably screwed.
April 30th, 2009 at 12:50 am
Nevermind. They said they are keeping an eye on it. If you see an issue it’s best to go into the chat room and tell them the name of your location (listed on the screen blow the product name). That way they can look it up and see what is going on.
April 30th, 2009 at 4:28 am
Hmm.. Now i’m up on 24 hours without having seen any labs or junkies :-/
April 30th, 2009 at 4:51 am
I haven’t been able to view my map in 3-4 days…. But I know there are junkies/labs around cuz it’s only 945pm and I’m well past my $1million mark for the day…can’t wait to see how much I make by midnight (when I go to sleep)!!
Paulie:
I haven’t sold Viagra since just before the appstore switch. I have 1 Viagra and I’m selling it for $9999… LOL just for fun…
I have three other coworkers who play as well (I got them hooked) and I had them all raise the price of the same item to $9997-$9999 in an attempt to trick the junkie bots into buying our items at near $9999 prices. Didn’t work even though we were all on one tile at the same time. Was worth a try though…
April 30th, 2009 at 5:11 am
I just got done reading some of the recent comments and I got a theory to offer everyone that’s complaining about the servers and lack of junkies buying or labs producing. This is strictly my own theory but here goes:
Is it possible that some places have better action than others in order to simulate real life deals? I know here in CA marijuana sells for around $10 for like 1gram or something like that, but in Hawaii that same gram would sell for $20-$35 to tourist and up to $100 to Japanese tourist (yes, $100 just for 1 gram).
And to add to the equation, maybe the junkies and labs buy/sell at random prices/quantities in order to also simulate the unpredictable rate of the real supply & demand of drugs (aka candy).
Although I still average a mil a day, I have times throughout the day where I have no sales for an hour or two…then times where I get sales every 15mins or so. Sometimes sales are large, sometimes just 1 item at a time.
That would definitely explain some of our complaints lately… But like I said, its just my theory.
Getting busted by cops is a whole different story that I’m too irritated to even try and rationalize… Seriously, 8+ bust in a row!!! >:|
April 30th, 2009 at 5:14 am
And where is this chatroom damnit!! LOL I need a slightly more active communication medium!!!
April 30th, 2009 at 5:26 am
Sooooo u guys are pissed at people using hack…… Though u wanted people with hacked phones to test ur game. Now u call the hackers greedy when u want money for nothing. U don’t provide a service just a game. I like the game but when a group that used to support the jailbreak community aka open source community starts charging for stupid points that are not of any help, of course those same people who tested ur good game are going to get the hacked points. You sold out. You are the greedy ones charge a few bucks for your game and be greatful that the jailbreak community brought to light to apple that apps are huge. Be happy you can even make a sale. W.e go try to get your original game approved and don’t bitch about getting your points hacked. If you would have left it in cydia only you would have a much more stable and faithful community. But u wanted money. So don’t call us greedy
April 30th, 2009 at 5:27 am
http://www.chatterous.com/underworld/
Join the bitch fest, I’m burning it up alone in there
April 30th, 2009 at 5:29 am
I drive all over hell every day, and I haven’t made a million in over a week. The servers are just too jacked. They have switched things up, and worst of all is the 25 minute updates. When it was 15 minutes I could handle that, but 25 minutes just jacked up everything.
April 30th, 2009 at 7:35 am
Not sold anything in 2 days and with 110 items my bags are full /cry. Common dude get the servers fixed I can’t stay No1 In the world for long like this LOL.
April 30th, 2009 at 7:38 am
There.. Now i got junkies and labs again.. Just a shame i had to waste 24 hours before they appered again.. Quite alot of money i didn’t have a chance to earn..
April 30th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
Went to chaterous/underworld and there was no one home. Trading is still abitch this morning. No rhyme or reason for how things are working. Had a completely full supply when I went to bed last night and woke up to find that I hadn’t sold a thing overnight:( What’s up…
April 30th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
I had to lower my price on waffles to 4500 for stuff to sell last night. It’s all over the map. I don’t know wtf they are doing, but I hope they sort it out soon. Whatever the hell they decide, just keep something consistent so I can get a system down.
And number 1 on my roadmap is to change the 25 min updates back to 15 min. It just altered the entire economy/gameplay doing that.
April 30th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
Drugulous you are absolutely right that i couldn’t have said it better myself.
April 30th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
Just wanted to chime in and say:
There are good reasons to jailbreak, jailbreaking is not illegal, not all jailbreakers are pirates, and CHEATING IS CHEATING.
April 30th, 2009 at 3:02 pm
I agree with Gepeto. Just cause you jailbreak, doesn’t mean you use installous.
I do it for:
1. SBSettings
2. Themes
3. Springjumps
4. Categories
5. Backgrounder
If you’ve played this game enough to get your level in the double digits, sack the freak up to pay 5 whole dollars to respec and thank them for their time. You’ve obviously played the game a lot if you’ve gotten to that point, so showing them some appreciation.
April 30th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
For the last 3 hours the local map hasn’t change at all.
Same lab same junkies nothing change a bit.
Also the junkies seems to stop buying from 17h00 to late at night. Strange time for junkie sleep, is there a time zone problem ?
April 30th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
LOL I refuse to pay a dime!!! That’s why I use a jailbroken n unlocked iPhone!! But I will gladly show my gratitude by continuing to play and provide input…
April 30th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
top dealer monty has been knocked off number one slot
April 30th, 2009 at 5:17 pm
The pricing has suffered a hit. Stuff is not selling today unless you lower the price a lot. I had to lower my waffles down to 4500-4700 for stuff to sell. It’s the very very low end, but I guess at least it’s selling at that price.
Try lowering your prices.
April 30th, 2009 at 5:55 pm
I tried checking out that chatroom but it’s extremely unfriendly for the iPhone… The chat keeps resizing, cutting off the most recent posts…
As for sales, in my area it’s been steady even at higher prices…
April 30th, 2009 at 6:08 pm
K-Dizzle, you can sign up for the chat room via text if you have unlimited messaging.
Text CHTR JOIN UNDERWORLD to 41411
April 30th, 2009 at 6:11 pm
told u I would not stay No1 with the way this game is going ATM I’m loseing more than I’m making cops busting all the time and no sells in days…….. Needs sorted fast
April 30th, 2009 at 9:10 pm
just made my single largest sale 38 coke er waffles in one go $211000. Has somthing changed or just having a really good day now ………..
April 30th, 2009 at 10:49 pm
monty-yeah… # 2!!! but still #1 in my book!
SaS_BuD-you sold to a real person not a junkie so your price must have been good enough to allow margin for the buyer.
xxzone-your right! Go to chatterous.com/underworld/ and let the dialogue begin!
April 30th, 2009 at 10:52 pm
Made about $3mil today so far! It’s a good day!
April 30th, 2009 at 10:53 pm
k-dizzle- go to chatterous! I’m lonely:( …
April 30th, 2009 at 10:58 pm
Made just over 1 mil so far today… Thank god!! I was seriously beginning to lose faith! Whatever changes have been made to the servers, please keep it that way!!
April 30th, 2009 at 11:07 pm
Chatterous sucks when using the iphone
April 30th, 2009 at 11:13 pm
K-Dizzle- Extrapolate that theory just a bit further…
April 30th, 2009 at 11:18 pm
For people wondering how the updates to cream of the crop works, every mill you makes improves your standings. I went from 51 in north america as soon as I crossed the 3m threshold in game. I’m assuming that tomorrow, when I cross the 4m threshold, my standings will get even better- unless other people cross similar thresholds before me- in which case I’ll drop. The server updates daily best as I can figure.
April 30th, 2009 at 11:37 pm
OK, we definitely need to hurry up this game site we are preparing. I mean, phew, that’s a lot of comments, fellas
April 30th, 2009 at 11:38 pm
I remember andrey saying that the cream-of-the-crop stats are only updated once daily… Cuz I’m past my 5mil mark as of today so that should boost me by quite a bit…
April 30th, 2009 at 11:41 pm
LOL@andrey!!! I’ve declared this comment section my day to day chatroom…
I like it this way better… LOL
April 30th, 2009 at 11:49 pm
What comes to the economy fluctuations. Well, I must say that it was designed this way on purpose. Prices, quantities, refresh rates - all are flexible, more or less. Although we are keeping an eye on really abnormal cases. Fixing the ugly ones as fast as we can.
May 1st, 2009 at 1:56 am
Hey Andrey, just wondering if there’s a problem with locations? SD says that I am in “Barmby on the Moor, West Midlands”… But I’m actually in Pocklington near York in North Yorkshire!! Is there any way this can be corrected?
Also, where in the world are you based Andrey?? Just interested
Cheers in advance!
May 1st, 2009 at 1:58 am
Oh, I’m in the UK just incase you don’t know where those above locations are… And my user name in SD is Big Mo… Cheers!
May 1st, 2009 at 6:20 am
@Paulie45
nope it was to a junkie @ $5578 not the highest price but still at them rates of movement cant complaine at all .
think it was just a good coulple hours i was haveing i turned over $850000 in 2 hours 10 mins
just over 1/2 mil proffit.
there a good day and there are bad day i guess .
maybe the junikes are just getting there stocks in for the weekend lol
May 1st, 2009 at 8:52 am
W00t! I reached godfather level 19. Now I can demand protection money from the players in my area. And the unlocked map feature is also really nice. Can’t wait to get to lvl 20 and start my own drug lab!
May 1st, 2009 at 11:28 am
lol i hear at level 20 they send you a free car as well
May 1st, 2009 at 11:38 am
just 200k off level 19 and not sold anything in age’s LOL
May 1st, 2009 at 2:35 pm
Do the junkies sleep? I didnt sell 1 single thing in the 7 hours I was asleep. Normally my supplies are all gone when I wake up. Whats going on, I went from making a fortune everyday to almost nil.
May 1st, 2009 at 2:38 pm
I’m position # 1337 for North America =D
May 1st, 2009 at 2:53 pm
Any one know the total number of player now
May 1st, 2009 at 3:02 pm
damn, yesterday was a good day!!! Finished the day with about $3.9mil in sales!!! It’s like a world record or something!!! $100k more than I can upgrade to lvl 18
May 1st, 2009 at 3:06 pm
Well done for level 19 taruk …….im half way there now but sales are very slow last couple of days
So I expect to be knocked off my 4th on earth spot soon
The map seems to have a bug it says I’m one place instead of another could this be why? Can’t wait for the kinks to be ironed out as Im addicted to this game!! Cheers a-steriods for this awesome game x
May 1st, 2009 at 3:35 pm
^^ Lucky you K-Dizzle. I only made about 400k
May 1st, 2009 at 3:52 pm
@K-Dizzle Chatterous is quite handy from iphone if u learn how to use the email commands. Any screen shot of those sales when you made 3m in 1 day ?
May 1st, 2009 at 4:05 pm
I know how to do the screen shots but how do I upload from the iphone? I don’t have Internet for my computer, I’m ghetto like that… LOL
Also, if you check the cream of the crop, you’ll notice that I’m pretty high up there now… compared to yesterday.
May 1st, 2009 at 4:07 pm
Gimme your email and I’ll send it to you…
May 1st, 2009 at 4:12 pm
Okay, I just checked my sold section and it only shows a portion of my sales… I will gladly send those though…
May 1st, 2009 at 9:30 pm
I guess the server is better in only a few places. I have not sold anything for 6 days now here in Buffalo, NY.
May 1st, 2009 at 11:23 pm
Born2kill, did you try lowering your prices? Or what might help even better, move to another spot and try there?
May 2nd, 2009 at 1:40 am
I don’t think it’s fair that only level 19 up should benefit from the auto buy setting
May 2nd, 2009 at 2:05 am
Taruk Izamah, what do you mean by “auto-buy”?
May 2nd, 2009 at 2:32 am
Yes i tried both and was only able to sell 3 items. The lab and the same junkie stay in one spot as if they frozen and dont move all day. The next day they change spots and stay in that same spot all day. This happens every day.
May 2nd, 2009 at 3:04 am
This game is fun sure it hasnits bugs but hey they will fix it. One bug that I haven’t seen here is like when I am chatting and click the BACK button my screen goes black,it happens evan when I look at my sales page and click back.the only way to fix this is by closing the app.as for sales today not so good but I make quite a lot of $. my location is Puerto Rico and there r alot of junkies there. Good thing it’s a small
Island I can drive around the island in a couple of hours.lol
May 2nd, 2009 at 3:09 am
Newest bug, joy labs dont change places, there wasnt any lsd/shroomz or coke today on network to buy.This sux, i could’t buy anything today, and i checked what’s for sell at least 3 times/hour..
May 2nd, 2009 at 4:49 am
I’ve noticed several people shooting up the ranks over the last couple of days, out of no where!
Have the cheaters all been elliminated?
May 2nd, 2009 at 5:45 am
The big deal here is the huge advantage given to area’s with more than one person in the tile. The quantity purchased/sold in those area’s doubles for every person in the tile. Some people have 5 users in their tile, so if the base quantity was 7, then that area would produce 35 or so of each product each update. Due to uhhh…i don’t know how to say this kindly…poor programming? The quantity the junkies buy appears to be tied directly to the quantity the joy labs produce.
As you can see that gives a huge advantage to people in area’s with multiple people. Especially if all those people don’t have access to the same product. That’s why you hear about people buying/selling 35 of a product per 25-30 minutes of gameplay.
This makes it a huge handicapped for the 90% of players that don’t have anyone else in their tile.
May 2nd, 2009 at 6:05 am
Xxxzone - I think you might have just hit the nail onthe head there… I’ve been trying to think of possible reasons why people are claiming to be selling such hugeeee quantitys in one deal… And I think you’ve cracked it. That puts a different slant on my whole game now… Ie; is there any point in me continuing to try and climb the cream of the crop when I live in a small village in the middle nowhere?? People round here have barely heard of mobile phones, let alone iPhones ! Lol
Hmmmm… Now I’m unsure anyway… If what you’ve said is correct, then I don’t see the point in trying to be “the best” any more…
May 2nd, 2009 at 6:12 am
I know it’s correct. Someone in the chat room mentioned it today, so I tested it out. There is an area by my work with two other people. As soon as I enter that area everything goes to a quantity of 21-22 (if not higher). Every other area is only 7-8 quantity.
At my home tile there is a person the tile next to me. I go over there today, and sure enough quantities go to 14-15 for labs, and 12-15 items per junkie purchase.
I love the idea of the product doubling for each person in the tile, but I think it’s a bad decision to have the junkies double their purchases just cause there is more supply. That’s not realistic. I think it was an easy way to program it, and it would take some extra effort to unlink the two.
It is a huge advantage though when you can move stuff like that. I want to get into the top 20 in the US, and then after that I know I just can’t compete in the cream of the crop.
May 2nd, 2009 at 7:49 am
Well for me the highest iv seen is 7-8 items. As for players I rarely see some the
Only ones I see are paulie45,peter,and sum russion dude from Moscow. lol
May 2nd, 2009 at 7:51 am
Yay I’m the 200 commentor weeee.lol
May 2nd, 2009 at 7:55 am
Yay I’m the 201 commentor!
May 2nd, 2009 at 10:09 am
@xxxzone yup that’s seems right my main area is selling or buying up to 38 items at a time but having to compeat buying and selling with 4. Or 5 people . So now buying from other tiles stocking right up and bringing them back to the high selling title it’s working but a lot of leg work traveling around.
May 2nd, 2009 at 1:10 pm
xxzone, the economy works pretty close to what you have described. There are details and special cases, but still, it’s close
I have to say, this strategy worked ok when the world had less players. Now, after we’ve got substantial growth, this does not work so well anymore.
We’ve already made the changes; pushing them live together with 1.1 game update. Which will happen next week.
May 2nd, 2009 at 1:41 pm
no wonder i ain’t number one then and that some people can mak a mil a day :-s
May 2nd, 2009 at 1:54 pm
Thanks for the explanation. I was so wondering what happened.
I use to be in the lead for California, by quite a bit, and now I’ve been overtaken, even though I haven’t changed the way I play.
May 2nd, 2009 at 3:09 pm
Well that explains a lot..
Hope the update fixes the way labs/junkies buy & sell.
May 2nd, 2009 at 4:12 pm
Are we “cheaters” ever going to get punished? I’m willing to start over, but I need someone like andrey to approve of this. I love this game (even though I am confined to one tile because of my iPod), and I would prefer to not be banned.
May 2nd, 2009 at 4:59 pm
“Cheaters”???
No, you guys stole money from the devs, didn’t cheat your way there. You should be banned IMO.
May 2nd, 2009 at 6:59 pm
I’m predicting that the new update will contain some sort of code that will be able to detect those people that have used illegal points…
May 2nd, 2009 at 7:37 pm
well the cheating problem is solved.
May 2nd, 2009 at 7:51 pm
If this is indeed the case, it sucks with a capital S. I live in Maine and, with out exaggerating, I think that there might be two or three other people playing in the whole state. I hope that something can be done about this. I struggle to make half a million a day.
^^^^^
Hi Selene
May 2nd, 2009 at 8:51 pm
I have always had a person one tile over from me, but I avoided them cause I thought they would cut into my sells. After learning about this I’ve been over there quite a lot and it’s changed the game a lot for the better. Glad there is one by my work also.
May 3rd, 2009 at 3:25 am
So my friend just told me he got 1500 taken away from him for cheating (he’s a dumb ass). Guess they just take away a percentage of money. Hopeully they dropped his level too. He was only level 8.
May 3rd, 2009 at 3:59 am
TheConfuzed1 I noticed that too, like four people surpassed me and I’ve been playing since the beta test!!! Seems odd maybe I just suck but I don’t think so. They go from level 12-16 in a matter of a couple days
May 3rd, 2009 at 4:12 am
My points haven’t been removed but 2 of my friends told me there’s has
May 3rd, 2009 at 4:16 am
I buyed points in the appstore and when I start the game, I dont have points!!! Iost my money?
May 3rd, 2009 at 4:48 am
Launch the points app once and they will show up.
May 3rd, 2009 at 5:01 am
@ Selene–
I get the blank screen bug too, and it’s always after tapping the ‘Back’ button.
May 3rd, 2009 at 8:23 am
Bbs, please go to the AppStore and download an update for 1500 Points pack. Then launch it again - your points will be back. As a bonus, you will get the whole 1500 package as if you didn’t spend anything yet.
May 3rd, 2009 at 8:52 am
TheConfuzed1 , this “black screen bug” is an ugly one. We have finally managed to get rid of it. The fix will show up with the upcoming update.
May 3rd, 2009 at 11:13 am
Andrey, I buyed in the apstore a 250 points and a 100 points pack, and I dont recive points, I only recived the points with a 15 points pack.
What can I do?
May 3rd, 2009 at 11:36 am
bbs, if you didn’t purchase 1500 point pack from the AppStore and didn’t install a hacked version of the same pack, this means we didn’t withdraw any points from you at all. So you’re good
May 3rd, 2009 at 11:44 am
Weeks ago I downloaded points from the installous, and You withdrew them from me, now yesterday I buyed in the AppStore a 250 pack, and a 100 pack and I dont recive the points. If you took me the hacked points, why now when I pay in the AppStore you dont give me my paid points?
May 3rd, 2009 at 12:22 pm
bbs, oh, I understand now what happened. Please drop me an email again with your nickname in the game. I’ll fix the issue.
May 3rd, 2009 at 12:46 pm
Is the same name: Bbs
May 3rd, 2009 at 11:36 pm
God, please fix the Server issues!
I’m spendi g hard earned cash on points and the server has been up and down! Mostly down!
May 3rd, 2009 at 11:58 pm
Yeah it’s been ok today, but I also have had issue where it has changed to 1 item buy sell, and I’m once again on 8 hour police protection. I also wish they would adjust how often the server refreshes since the increased load has increased the update times.
The devs have been great trying to fix things though, so hopefully that continues.
May 4th, 2009 at 1:50 am
these Dev’s are good! It takes time to fix the bugs. I just wish they would make a comment, and give us an ETA. (hint hint).
Cheers~
May 4th, 2009 at 2:35 am
if u have any questions, they answer twitter about 99% of the time.
May 4th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
4 addicts and 1 lab on my tile… Tons of visible people outside the though.
May 4th, 2009 at 2:52 pm
Outside the tile**
May 4th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
What’s wrong with the server ? i haven’t seen any junkie / lab for a couple of days, since i’am lvl 14 ?
May 4th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
Servers have been fine for me for the past couple of days apart from the very occasional 4-6 hour break… Which I guess is normal… I’m finally back to making 1 mil a day… Level 18 here I come!!
May 4th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
man it’s bin horrible these past 2 days. I am losing more money to cops than what I’m making,I have 108 kilos of coke. It sells for $7000 everytime but now it won’t sell this sucks. It’s bin 2 days aghhh I need 800k for my next cop upgrade.
May 4th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
7 grant for coke? You’re nuts.. I sell for 4.5K and they go like hot potatoes.
May 4th, 2009 at 5:23 pm
7 grand is too much… I couldn’t shift it when I was charging 6… I charge 5 and like Taruk says, they sell immediately
May 4th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
Well where I live it sells for 7k easy. I live in puerto rico
May 4th, 2009 at 5:28 pm
I sell shrooms for 2,900-2,800 LSD for 1,100 ecstasy 700. Sells everytime but not today. Coke has bin bad. And I lost like 30k+ in cop bust
May 4th, 2009 at 6:05 pm
Yeah the range on the coke is the widest. The first time I ever was able to sell for 7k was yesterday, and that didn’t last through the next refresh of my area. Usually it’s between 5-6K. I usually just stay at 5.5 or 6, cause the 25-30 minute updates make it too hard to play with the price.
May 4th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
Yeah I’m going to keep it this way till tusday. Than I will have to lower da price =( I have 110kilos of coke weeeeeee so that’s a total of $1,260,000 of it sells all for 7k that is.
May 4th, 2009 at 9:04 pm
Selene-xxzone is right. Just like I’ve told you in game. It is really rare that you are able to sell for that price. When the junkie bots are spwaned by the server, thy are pre-programmed to buy for no more than a certain price. Also, if there is more than one player on your map tile, the bots will buy from the lowest player. If you drop to $5000 or $5500 your stuff will sell. If you take into account the amount of time that you spend waiting to sell when you could have been selling at a lower price, you would have made just as much if not more due to more consistent turnover in product. Just a thought
May 4th, 2009 at 10:22 pm
We have an update coming this week?!!! Yeeee Haaaaw!!
These screwed up servers, and cop busts are Killing me!!
May 4th, 2009 at 10:43 pm
i hope they dont punish us for cheating cause my brothers friend just downloaded points from installous in my iPod touch for the second time and spent them all hoping they ban me so that he can be better than me. little kids are so mean lol.
May 4th, 2009 at 11:10 pm
UW 1.1 is almost ready! Probably gonna send it for approval tomorrow. And tomorrow evening, I think I’ll be able to put together a new post about the stuff going on. Stay tuned
May 5th, 2009 at 6:23 am
In the wake of Trent Reznor’s vocal objection to Apple’s App Store content-based rejection policies, it seems that the iPhone 3.0 update may provide the solution.
iLounge reports that Makayama’s Newspaper(s) [App Store, $0.99] application was originally rejected due to inappropriate online-content (images of topless women) from the UK’s The Sun tabloid. Apple informed the developer that Parental Controls have been announced for iPhone 3.0 and that it “would be appropriate to resubmit your application for review once this feature is available.”
This suggests that many of the “offensive content” reasons for App rejections may go away once 3.0 is available. For now, Makayama has simply removed the offending newspaper from his application.
Source: http://www.macrumors.com/2009/05/04/iphone-3-0s-parental-controls-to-loosen-app-store-restrictions/
Maybe the drug theme can come back legally after all
May 5th, 2009 at 8:30 am
Now that would be pretty nice… Really looking forward to the 3.0…!
May 5th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
See all I had to do was wait I sold half of my coke for 7k. I was literally 1k away from 800k =( but cop bust took over again so no victory.
May 6th, 2009 at 7:33 am
To andrey: im getting a new ipod touch and im giving my old 1g to my girlfriend.can i some how keep using my account on the new ipod?? I have kinda worked hard to get the #3 spot in my city
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December 3rd, 2011 at 5:17 pm
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