We have good news for all fans of the game: thanks to all the help from the jailbroken beta-testing community, we are now ready for the release of the game!
On the 8th of April we are submitting Underworld: SweetDeal to the AppStore. Let’s hope this time approval goes smoothly.
For those who aren’t familiar with the whole thing, what’s Underworld? It’s the unique location based massively multiplayer online game simulating trade on the global black market. Using GPS inside your iPhone / iPod Touch you discover a parallel world of dirty trade, cruel rivals and merciless loan sharks. Your job is to find good deals everywhere you travel in your real life and earn big buck by moving merchandise around.
Now to the less exciting part. Despite what we have said before, the news kicked in that we have to shut down our beta version for jailbroken devices. So be it. After all, Underworld is MMO — more players means more fun, right? Beta accounts will be moved to the SweetDeal, where you can continue your struggle to the Cream of the Crop.
Yay for extras and the best news of all this, the underworld team are going 3.0.
Lets hope for a 3.0 beta soon and some news on that.
Cant wait to see what UW:SD is like but does mean i jail broke my iphone 3.0 for a few days of playing(but was so worth it)
I am happy for you guys and hope it gets approved, but at the same time a little bummed out. I know the game is still the same but its just nice seeing the drugs being sold and not just candy it kind of adds to the game. Big brother at its finest. Maybe someone from apple can come hold my dick while I piss to make sure doing it right and i’ll be ok. Kids can’t sign contracts anyway and if their parents get one for them its their responsibility to raise them not apples. blah blah blah /steps off soapbox
Not getting the “new” version because it’s on the appstore is assanine to me. The game can only get better with more people playing…. Oh well, I can’t say that I will miss you with an attitude like that….
Congrats in advance of when we can download the full version.
This is a copy of my previous post below. Attitude or not, I think people have a right to be leary of apple its philosophies. Read on…
It’s been a while since I posted. Level 16 and climbing! I haven’t been following the thread in the various on-line areas lately. I can’t tell if going to the “officially sanctioned” version is going to be good or not. I have to say that I am more than a little nervous. Apple has already made it more than clear that they don’t like jailbreaking or anything associated with it. To me, it sounds as if they’re a big bunch of whiners (read this as #@!!$%^&&). Apple has intentionally dumbed their equipment down in order to continue to sell us the newest, upgraded version of the iphone. I can’t speak for everyone out there but I resent their business model. The idea of intentionally giving less for more is insulting. Manufacturers such as Blackberry (I own two) try to include as much as they possibly can with each new platform they offer. Usually when a new phone is launched it is not that it offers so much more than previous versions, it’s that it does what it always has only faster or with more ease of use.
With this business model in mind, why should any of us, including you, Andrey, expect any better treatment in the future. All of the “underground” software developers out there have created applications that make apple’s products do what they should have done right out of the box. I absolutely treat my cellular devises as tools of business first and gaming platforms second. With that said, it was very refreshing and an absolutely great diversion to find a game like Underworld. Well designed and thought out as well as requiring timing and strategy to play; not like the Brick Breaker apps that are the standard fare of cell phones.
The news portion of the game indicated that our game data will be migrated to the Sweetdeal game. I hope this is true and that the migration will go off without a hitch. I have several weeks and a lot of hours invested in getting to where I am in the game;per the map and other player information available to me in game, I am the highest level anywhere in the State of Maine and maybe northern New England. I would not be surprised if Apple finds a way to make further gameplay unavailable to anyone currently playing the Beta version out of spite for all of us having hacked phones. I would love to hear more from you, Andrey, on exactly how the change over will be done. Do we have to pay for the new appstore version? Hopefully you will be getting a good paycheck for all of the work and effort you’ve expended. If we buy this new version, will our ingame I.D. get us back to where we were? Please post something about this if you would.
Just since I’ve been playing, the number of players around me has quadrupled at least. I know that there are a lot of people wondering how it’s all going to work. After-all, just like crack, once you start playing, it’s hard to stop; but we may if apple, in typical fashion, makes this more of a pain in the ass than it’s worth. Thanks for all you’ve done!
I like have many of the same questions as Paulie45 as Ive been playing alongside him for a while now. I cant even begin to describe the devastation I felt when trying to sign in and not be able to…I just re-upped my whole supply! So why was it necessary to shut down the servers already? This couldn’t wait until the final GO with Apple?
Besides that this games is worse than crack. I thought it was bad when i first got my iphone and couldn’t put it down. Now EVERYWHERE I go I subconsciously pick up my phone to check to see if I made any sales or if I can pick up some cheap product. Road trips are a blast now. This sounds pathetic but I bet Im not the only one that got bored one day and went for a drive just to try to make a dollar. Wasting gas to unload fake peyote!!
Id like to hear more about these “paid extras” and also think that us dedicated players deserve some kind of special treatment after the switch over…not just switching over our cash, upgrades, and current supply but a handsome reward for sticking by through inception
I feel your Pain UpgrayeDD, Selling Candy after selling LSD, Speed, Weed, etc etc just does not sound Right . I second the notion of Why close the servers down b4 the Sweetdeal is up, I waz just all cashed up Ready to Sell Some really good Quality LSD..lol. Anyways a-Steroids I loved your Work on UW Druglords, Not to Sure if i could downgrade to Sweetdeal like i said b4 it just doesnt feel right Selling Candy after selling Top Notch Drugs..lol
Thank you for putting my post back up. It was my last hope of convincing you not to shut down. Like many others here this is my most used app and I’m on it constantly. I know it’s only 3-5 day, but those days w/O are going to hurt, and be very long! Can’t blame a guy for trying :).
I could see maybe paying for money or ranks or something like that. Other MMO’s let you pay for respect points, so I can see the going that route for people who don’t want to put in the time. I hope not cause I think it cheapens the game, but at the end of they day the gotta make money somewhere along the lines.
I’ve enjoyed this game for free for a month or so, and I’ve played it more than anything else on my phone. I see myself investing some money in this to give back, as long as it’s not just a cheap way to jump ahead rank wise.
Hopefully they are some cool extra feature, so I wont mind paying. I also hope they hook up the existing accounts with some sort of treat!
Looking at these other posts, I feel the need to reiterate a point. The game, as created, is a lot of fun to play! I would have happily paid $20.00 to play. I agree with xxzone above also. Rank in MMO’s is also the respect you get. I hope that it doesn’t become something you can just buy. Lastly, I hope that Apple goes ahead without the delay I feel we are likely to see here. Apple should remember that Jailbroken phones work better than the factory versions otherwise people wouldn’t bother doing it on the scale that they have. I am going to venture a guess that, while I know nothing about Andrey, if you were a programmer in this language, your choices are either work for pay by Apple or virtually for free on Cydia. As a business decision none of us should be too quick to think of this move to legitimacy as anything other than that; a sound business decision. Apple, on the other hand, would do well to remember that a lot of people would be willing to pay real money to use these apps. Also, the internet is a great equalizer. Buzz amongst dedicated users is way more of a powerful advertising tool than anything that Apple can muster through BestBuy and AT&T. I’d happily give more money to Cydia and people like Andry.
Lastly, people may remember what happened to Microsoft. They got sued over making their source code available to programmers so that programmers could compete more evenly in the software marketplace. Apple isn’t anything like on the scale of a Microsoft. As such, the market share that they claim is much, much smaller. I am not in the know about how the programming community works on an intimate level. It seems to me, though, that Apple, as well as the public who use their products, would be better served by achieving a level of Detante. If you, as a business, want to make money on designing and selling software applications, then do it with better ingenuity and insight about consumer demand than your competetors; not by creating a monopoly over the industry.
The sweetdeal version hasn’t even been submitted to the app store yet. They aren’t doing that until tomorrow 4/8. They shut down the server because of some silly clause in the SDK agreement that’s always been there, but people just started making a fuss about it.
The more I think about this the more frustrating it is. There are many many developers who have apps on cydia and the app store and nothing has happened to them. I really don’t get why this decision was made. For instance, the falling sand game. It’s on cydia, and there is a pay version in the app store. Nothing has happened to the many developers who have done both. I think it really was a rash decision, and it was unnecessary.
I’m cool with whatever has to happen as long as I can keep playing… I’ve never seen a rank 15 and I was about 100k from getting there, it would be nice to see it! I’m not a big apple fan but as long as my info transfers over smoothly I don’t have any problems….
I am concerned about the pay features though… Is it going to turn into a game of whoever has the most money will be the highest lvl player? I stopped playing Mafia Wars because of that… I think if whatever it is that you pay for has an expiration then that wouldn’t be so bad…
Yeah, would have liked an extra day too, would have been to level 16, about 300K short of 1.5M…although, at this point, I’m still torn as to which of 3 upgrades I would have chosen… Couldn’t decide between carry, police, or coke.
I have read all the comments i have one question stuck in my head. will this verson still be able to play with the drug ref.
Ok i have that tap tap game and you can download a G.H. skin for it. If we want to have the bad ref. in the game make a skin to download from cydia that does just that. i will play it with candy but i dont want to.
Candy!!……candy, did i hear correctly that in the new version you sell fugg’n candy? Thats the dumbest thing ive ever heard. Everyone thats spent tons of time moving drugs around their hometown, they now get to look forward to selling candy? You cant even make candy references to types of drugs it doesnt make sense this in no way shape or form is going to appeal to the crowd you originally made this game for.
If apple doesnt like drugs tell em to stick this game in their pipe and smoke it! Sell it to cydia id be glad to pay whatever you wanted for a cydia fee that allowed the game to be as explicit as you wanted. Thats why “we” love the game so much cause you cant buy shit this good anywhere, unless of course you sell to cydia instead of making crapples version which sounds like it appeals to 10 year olds (which by the way you need to be 18 to have an att contract) so why make something so G rated? Im sad to say i will not follow you into apples cr-app store. As cheesy as it sounds i will have no “passion” or “desire” to sell candy when i drive from work to home or if im just out. Your making a BIG mistake please find some solution to make money and keep the game completely original the way to first designed it!
Really? To me, it makes no difference what I’m selling, as long as I can easily tell the value difference in the products. The game is going to be the same amount of fun it was before, at least, I think it will be. On top of that, it will be easier (well, not so sure, if we are talking about smarties, blow pops and ring pops), to talk about in front of other people. Right now, people just think I’m plain weird when talking about selling LSD or Peyote…
Sadly I will not be following this awesome game to the AppStore, it’s great the way it is and ‘candies’ just does not sound appealing in any way. I’d gladly pay for this from the Cydia Store, only game I really liked and/or played on my iphone. Hope you guys are re-considering keeping the Cydia server up and running
XVar, I am sincerely disappointed with the publisher’s decision to abruptly shutdown UW with zero notice, no message online, nothing. I think this is not thoughtful to your beta testers who have been very loyal to you throughout.
I do wish you well, and hope your app is approved by the app store, but it is a shame you chose this path of breaking your word to us in fear of Apple. They know who you are, and if they want to deny your app they will find any reason to do so.
Sadly, now I have mixed feelings regarding purchasing if it is approved from a company that breaks its word….
I want my Druglords back !!! Today was awful..just a feeling of emptiness. I find myself picking up my phone in an attempt to push my supply every 5 minutes only to be reminded how us loyal testers were robbed!!
They did give warning on twitter.
And I think its in a post to.
Nothing wrong sweets they are yum.
If you really don’t like sweets close your eyes and image it as drugs.
If they post this game to apple and still have cydia ties, apple could make an example of them and shut down there account so no more underworld at all.
If you really must have drugs learn to make a skin for the app and use that.
I for one will keep playing this mmo I’ve been here from the start and want to stay till the end.
Well done underworld for all your hard work. Many of us will always support you.
As has been said before this is not silly.
They need to turn the game off for the apple store submission.
They can have no ties to cydia, and people this was the beta version not the final.
its only a few days until you can get your game on again.
then we can enjoy a bigger better community, and on a final note GUMMY BEARS
As I have said before, I am all for the game progressing to the appstore. I’ve told many people about the cam who have shown interest, but i only have one friend in the area who wasn’t scared to jailbreak. Now we all can play, and my area could use some more people playing the game.
I just hope, and I’ve said this before, that the game doesn’t have the bugs that the current model has. I still struggle just swiping to other drug pages. The game takes forever to refresh when you make a purchase, and you aren’t even given a “sale went through” message. to be sure.
I also hope that the server can handle the flood of new users. it seems to have issues now when it’s only the jailbroken users. fingers crossed, even with all the bugs, I’m still level 15 or 16.. and I have 1.4 million waiting to make the next upgrade… I really hope all works well.
As someone said before, i think the “skin” or “theme” is moddable (is that correct spelling?) like some other apps out there. Just wait, “someone” is going to release that. A-steroids can’t be involved in this, officially that is.
No sweat people, the game will be the same if not more fun.
It’s a sell out!!!! We have a cydia store. I’m sure there will be another game like this for the jailbroken phones. I’ll bet someone will make really good royalties of this game…..to bad it went that way.
From drugs to candy? I don’t think so. I really enjoyed the game the way it was. I don’t think I can make the change. Taking the game from Cydia to Apple makes it feel to commercial. I liked the fact that so many people had a problem with the game. Now, the game is cleaned up for all those that were to high and mighty for the original game. It’s a sell out.
Stop nagging about a-steroids selling out, going from cydia to appstore, blablabla. If you don’t like it, uninstall the game and shut up. Or, try to understand that the developers just want to make this game a better experience by allowing more players to join. And ofcourse make a decent buck.
All I care about is having more people to play with. Since a lot of people are wusses afraid of ruining the warranty on their phone by doing stuff unapproved by Steve Jobs on it, this will get me more players in my area.
Would be great if we could overwrite the skin on the official one with the cydia files.
There will no doubt be an unofficial patch for jailbroken phones that will revert the candies to peyote, so stop whining about the candies.
This is the only way for A-steroids people to get a financial reward for their hard work, and submitting the game to the Apple Store is the only way to a solid cash flow and thus continuous improvements to the game. Everyone wins!
Stupid stupid stupid mistake!!! By making this change you are basically say fuck you to everyone who actually enjoyed this app. I am with everyone else who thinks selling candy is about as lame as it gets. As suggested above, having a cydia available skin for the app to allow us to once again sell the drugs that got us hooked on the game to begin with, would be a wise move on your part as a developer. More power to ya for getting it into the apple store…but you can’t forget about us as we are the reason your app became so popular. How many people do you think actually want to sell sweettarts and gumdrops? I am sure many agree when I say you ruined a good thing.
Once again, after reading many of the previous posts, most of you need to uninstall the app and move on! Your problem isn’t with A-Steroids it’s with Apple. None of these programmers wrote the business model that they are all subject to. At the end of the day it’s the game play we all love. I don’t care if it’s coke or gummy bears because I’m still gonna try to be a better player than you are. If I’m a level 20 Willie Wonka you’re still going to have to buy your stuff from me. The only crappy thing abut any of this is the potential for losing whatever status, cash and commodities you had when the servers were shut off. But hey, life is about starting over so grow up and play or don’t but stop the whining.
It’s easy to theme the game, you just have to have a little know how. I would not be surprised if within a week of the official release in the app store you should see themes start showing up in cydia. I have already been trying to theme the current version and it works for the most part.
So stop whining about it not being drugs anymore as it can be again with a little modification.
So to all who are crying about the game moving to the dark side, remember this, up till now it has been FREE, they pay for the servers they pay for the upgrades, monthly Bandwidth ect..
A game like this can only be free for so long. Their money would run out sometime for having to pay for all the upgrades to keep it going.
Anyone with a half a brain would understand this. If you want to keep playing the game someone somewhere is going to have to pay for the servers. This is a recurring cost due to bandwidth and such. It’s not like a standalone game that once created needs no upkeep or has re occurring costs.
Moving it to the app store only reinforces that the game will continue to move forward with more features being added more people to play with ect..
Just think how much time the programmers have put into this game. Nobody want to work for free. I know you would not. Just be thankful that the game is free. Let them make a buck where they see fit.
Just like any change over from one thing to another, there will true followers and other who just can’t grasp why they change, along with people parsing and cursing them.
Everyone here is entitled to their options, but remembers this, no matter how much you complain, in the end the programmers are going to so what is in their best interest. Most of the people posting has no idea what it takes to program and everything that is involved in keeping it going. We all asked for new features, we vote on new features and they listened and provide them, and continue to do so.
If you like the game join us on the dark side (app store), if not please stop complaining it getting old already. And the “I am against Apple” people, COME ON YOU BOUGHT AN IPHONE. “HELLO” if you are against apple why you did buy the Unit. You should have bought another brand. Apple has the right to make a buck also. They are only trying to protect their investment. I have never heard anyone make something and get paid for it say “ok I have made too much money”, EVERYONE WANTS MORE. And so does Apple, Microsoft, Wal-Mart, EVERYONE!
You can be against Apple but remember who ever you join sides with is also trying to make a buck. And in time will do something to upset you about the way they do business. We all just need to learn to deal with it.
I don’t like the fact that they had to shut down UWDL and release UWSD, but with a little theme I can make it into UWDL again.
I congratulate the makers of this game as they have done a good job and only time will tell how it goes with the paid version that will follow. We are all curious to find out what part of the game will be costing money and how bad it will affect the game play. Maybe its “Buy a drug lab” or “Become a junkie” in time maybe thing will be real players and no bots.
I look forward to the new comers.
Well that’s my 2 cents worth of rambling on. Back to work for me and earn a buck. LOL
Keep it coming, Good or bad. It’s all worth reading others options.
Just want to know cream of the crop was not working for a long time I was just over 1/2 way to level 19 was there many others as high. And keep up the good work with underworld but the drugs will be missed…
the bigger question in my mind is this: will there be a codeset version requirement on the appstore version that will require you to unjailbreak your phone in order to install? Of so all the freebies in the world will not entice me to load it on my phone
You are right, it’s their game and they are going to do what they want. The fact remains they didn’t need to shut down this version. That was their choice, but Apple didn’t force them to. There are quite a few apps that exist on both. IDSoftware released on cydia before the app store, so saying they had to shut it down is false.
No one has ever come forward and said they were rejected because their app existed in cydia. Someone posted a news article that blew the wording all out of proportion, and a-steroids chose to go back on their previous statement that they wouldn’t shut this version down.
I have no problem with them doing what they feel they have to, but the reason they shut it down is what bothers me. They didn’t have to. They misunderstood a story that came out, and then they freaked out and changed their mind.
Ok… As scrolling through these lists ive readmost of them and all the people that ive playd seem to be on the same page. I wouldnt mind spending 5-10 dollers on it in the cydia store just to have the drug referance. Or what you could do is just make a winterboard skin for it to have the drugs
Phew. SweetDeal just went to the AppStore for approval. Finally getting back to you fellas.
Ok, I understand how this whole DL shutting down thing might seem like a little overreaction or something But you know, after waiting for nothing for two and a half months, we want this time the submission to go as smooth as possible. So please bear with us here.
Will the game still be free in the AppStore? Yes, even within the AppStore UW is going to be free to play, with paid extensions available. We’ll shine a light on these in a separate post. Tomorrow morning most likely.
At last, I must say, we do know there are lot of DL fans who love exactly the dirty setting of the game (heck, we like it so much too). And as it was mentioned in comments earlier, sure there will be a cure to make the things how they used to be.
I’m positive that in the end everybody will have fun hanging out in the new united Underworld More people - more fun, MMO rule #1.
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